Why Telegram?

[nevets]

OK. There's an important principle here about a free and open internet...

Please don't take this the wrong way, but WHY are we hiding help and assistance for those using Ghost behind a non-browser searchable, freely available to all service wall?

I believe that the internet is for freely sharing help and assistance topics.
Walling-off private and sensitive data is obviously essential in it's place; but for forums whose goals are primarily sharing?
Bizarre.

Why MUST Ghost users be required to possess a smartphone (app downloadable device]?
Why MUST Ghost users be required to use Telegram and disclose their contact number to a third party?
Why are we directed to use Telegram?

I feel like we're creating silos of useful data and cliques of users.

So, given we all need these forums from time to time, is there a better service than Telegram to achieve this?

Written with the hope we can have a kind and respectful conversation about this topic,

Steve

[RodMyers]

it's where every one started hanging out.

IF you choose not to go there, then I post the forum link for others to look at

[Franky]

There are dozens of messages in Telegram. Days later you can't find solved problems. Support via Telegram is not a solution for me. Only scares away new users of GhostBSD and does not help to bring the software forward.

it's where every one started hanging out.

IF you choose not to go there, then I post the forum link for others to look at

That's not good enough. A forum is like a reference book / Wikipedia. Telegram cannot fulfill and provide that.

[Hagg]

OK. There's an important principle here about a free and open internet...

Please don't take this the wrong way, but WHY are we hiding help and assistance for those using Ghost behind a non-browser searchable, freely available to all service wall?

I believe that the internet is for freely sharing help and assistance topics.
Walling-off private and sensitive data is obviously essential in it's place; but for forums whose goals are primarily sharing?
Bizarre.

Why MUST Ghost users be required to possess a smartphone (app downloadable device]?
Why MUST Ghost users be required to use Telegram and disclose their contact number to a third party?
Why are we directed to use Telegram?

I feel like we're creating silos of useful data and cliques of users.

So, given we all need these forums from time to time, is there a better service than Telegram to achieve this?

Written with the hope we can have a kind and respectful conversation about this topic,

Steve

Thank you for that. I had that same misgiving about Telegram. And the "that's where we started hanging out" is insipid and disrespectful at best. Darn it, I really wanted this OS to be something, but it's apparently dying off and I'm thinking that this Telegram bit is a portion of the reason, others being it's just not tended to. Not to vilify the developer/founder of GhostBDS at all, he's got a life to live, famly etc, and this project requires energy and dedication he may not have time for.

Good luck to all here.

[ericbsd]

I think there is a misunderstanding.

Telegram should not be the primary place for help. Instead, the forum is where problems are searchable and provides content for future documentation.

I never redirected anyone to Telegram, and I also think Telegram/Element/IRC is not the best place for help since the information is easily lost.

I connected Telegram, Element, and IRC to provide more options and an easy way for real-time communication, but I did not as a primary source of help.

Every time I read about GhostBSD issues, there is always one on top of the others; it is that the GhostBSD forum is dead. It is mainly because most people are active on Telegram/Element/IRC.

I try to help when I can, but I can't focus on helping everyone, or I won't be able to work on GhostBSD. So I am not that active on the help side.

When it comes to getting help or helping others use the tool you prefer.

If someone suggests using Telegram, you can disregard it and even tell them to post the link for the forum post on Telegram. That is what I do when I am not sure of the answer.

[Seeraa SoftHearted]

I think there is a misunderstanding.

Telegram should not be the primary place for help. Instead, the forum is where problems are searchable and provides content for future documentation.

I never redirected anyone phenq where to buy to Telegram, and I also think Telegram/Element/IRC is not the best place for help since the information is easily lost.

I connected Telegram, Element, and IRC to provide more options and an easy way for real-time communication, but I did not as a primary source of help.

Every time I read about GhostBSD issues, there is always one on top of the others; it is that the GhostBSD forum is dead. It is mainly because most people are active on Telegram/Element/IRC.

I try to help when I can, but I can't focus on helping everyone, or I won't be able to work on GhostBSD. So I am not that active on the help side.

When it comes to getting help or helping others use the tool you prefer.

If someone suggests using Telegram, you can disregard it and even tell them to post the link for the forum post on Telegram. That is what I do when I am not sure of the answer.

Thank you for clarifying the points related to Telegram.
This is helpful.

[hank2024]

Hi there,

it must have been ages, since I posted something in this forum.
First of all I wanted to clarify, that Eric is really trying to divide himself between GhostBSD devl, job, family life AND helping others, if he can... Noone appreciates this more than me.
And second: yes, I also got "stranded" on Telegram, as so many people posted there more frequently and with too many ways of communication and less time to keep overview everywhere, I concentrated on Telegram, too.
Unfortunately, some people started to "poison" certain channels, that s why I took a break on Telegram, unfort. couldn t take that break on "Lobby" alone, so dropped whole telegram GhostBSD group for some time...
But I m sure - as a not SO experienced Unix user - we all try to help, if we can and that counts for Eric as well!

just to get my opinion said on this...

[ericbsd]

One got a kick. It is hard to keep up with Telegram, especially when a person always talks for nothing and is always out of topic. Today, it has become toxic once again, and I had to kick one.

[hank2024]

hi Eric,

well, couldn t have me, cause I dropped out of group earlier!
Sorry, if i got rude in words, but noone puts me in one line with 'Hitler', sorry....

[hank2024]