retiring

[ASX]

Hi there,

due to personal reasons I'm leaving this project.

Eric, please delete all my accounts.

I wish you the best of luck.

Andrea

[ericbsd]

Is there anything to do with one of us at less?

[ASX]

Is there anything to do with one of us at less?

No, it is that I'm currently severely limited in what I can do for this project, due to various personal reasons.

After reading your sentence:

"I did forgot that there is no one maintaining xfce. "

I realized that I'm unable to do what I should do. Not your fault.

Either way I think that providing an XFCE in its current (non working) state is a disservice and XFCE should be ditched if no one care about that, thus the my stepping down.

Again, best of luck.
Andrea

[ericbsd]

I did not want that sentence to get that efect, more as to have users to step up and it look to have made some wanted efect and unwanted efect. There is a user that want to step up and help.

I was prety happy about your current contribution and did not want to ask you more, your involvement on the forums was appreciated, knowing that you have things happening in your live I did not want to put more of you.

My job opportunity, did cause me to not test XFCE, but in the same time, I was thinking that is a dev release and not and official release, it will help me to find most of the problem without doing much testing and it did I fixed most of the issue reported since the release and 2 issue was if that sould have been on elif for creating cfg and a space that was mising on the code for creating the xinitrc for xfce, and should have wait befaure, but in the same time it is prealpha.

Anyway I am not here to retain you in the porject, if you cannot contribut has you want no problem here, I did not wanted to make you feel force to work on anything on that project, this not a job and for the moment the project can't aford to pay anyone and nobody should sacrefice there personal for this project.

I wich you the best.

[kraileth]

ASX: I'm sad to read this... You were not only a considerable driving force of the project but I'd even say that you were essentially the spirit of the forums. And while I chose GhostBSD as my main operating system for technical reasons among other things, it was in fact your commitment that made me want to be part of the community (and later join the project). There's nothing more repellent for any project than a forum that's a dead and deserted place. You were always quick to answer and help people which stirred the whole forum and IMO was the prerequisite for building a healthy community.

If you have personal reasons to step down it's unfortunate but such is life (and life always comes first). But I know that you're passionate about what GhostBSD is (and what it could become). There's absolutely no reason why your account(s) should be deleted! You've done a lot here and why should it look like you were never here and didn't do anything? Step down and retire, take a rest, sort things out and maybe engage in other projects. But deleting your accounts sounds like you want to barricade the way so that you could never return. Is that really what you want?

Oh, and regarding Xfce: I had the feeling that there are quite some happy Xfce users on the forums. Dropping that would not be a good idea at all. Anybody who is using GhostBSD is very likely to understand that this is not a commercial OS and that things break now and then. And hey, this is Unix! If somethings broken and somebody cares, it can be fixed!

[ASX]

Thanks,

please leave my accounts active!

I will take a pause, may be I need to look at the things differently.

[ericbsd]

I did not have intention to delete you account yet. Just take time for yourself, you did recommend me that in the past never told you that, but that was the best advice you have give me, I have week that I try to avoid working on GhostBSD, for My own good. There is week that I do want to quit, and that were I learn that I need to back out for bit, that is why 10.3 was really late release.

Take all the time you need, I will focus on getting NevilleGoddard on board for helping me to maintaining XFCE, he look really interested to that and this would relive some weight a bit on every one.

Also I would like to find a person that would like to focus on the Gnome version to add back the sense to the GhostBSD project. GhostBSD was at first a gnome project and feel lately even if I don't like much Gnome3, there is people out there that want Gnome BSD system.

If you comeback, I hope that I will have more people helping.

[kraileth]

This is absolutely true: When hobbies begin to a burden that start to weight you down, there's something seriously wrong. For me this has happened before, too, and while I didn't want to admit it to myself, I was close to burnout and while taking a break things begun to heal. I guess that a lot of us have to learn this the hard way, seems to be a human thing. But there's one positive side to it: Going through things like this allows us to grow in the end.

I'm sure any one of us would love to see GhostBSD succeed in every way possible. It would be great to have a 20 or more people very active on the forums. It would be great to have some more experienced BSD people committing in their areas of expertise. Heck, it would feel incredible to beat Linux in some fields! But GhostBSD is a hobby for all of us and no matter how passionate we're about it (there's always danger in passion), taking it too serious is eventually going to do no good.

You, ASX, recently brought up the question what GhostBSD wants to become, what our target group is. Considering it's history, I'm thinking about inviting more people who don't yet know a lot about either BSD or OS development but would like to get into it. And if somebody is interested in building an LXDE desktop with GhostBSD and leaves after half a year that's not so bad if we made it clear that this would only be an experimental spin. We could have a "mainline" GhostBSD with two officially supported DEs, two supported boot loader options and one supported init system. Now if anybody want's to play around with Runit (nope, I doubt that Prince who suggested it, actually does it), we should probably welcome that interest. A user-friendly system is important and part of that is to be newbie-friendly. But what about explicitly being friendly towards new developers? Just a thought.